Magicians Phil Taylor and Ian Brennan are joined by the fantastically funny Wayne Goodman.

This is the first time we have started a podcast with the guest wielding a lightsaber!

Wayne has a wealth of knowledge and experience in magic having worked in stand up venues for years. He has cut his teeth entertaining some of the most difficult audiences and has developed the perfect strategies to deal with any audience. Wayne talks about how to gain that important experience when putting together a stand-up show, how to make money doing what you love and how to deal with hecklers. Wayne has also recently published a book explaining in great detail the types of hecklers and how to deal with them, the book is called Plan Prepare Perform and is available from all good magic dealers.