Lloyd Barnes joins Phil and Ian in talking all things Ellusionist, visual magic and the future of magic and technology. The recording starts with a lot of laughter as Phil was having problems setting up the system and Lloyd’s natural humour meant we were in fits before it began.This is also where we got the title from!

Once the recording gets going we have a fascinating look behind the scenes of what it is like to work for Ellusionist and travel the world creating and organising the latest in magic.  Although Lloyd describes himself as ‘just someone who does colour changes’ he is actually working his arse off globally making magic happen and he gives a look behind the screen as to what this life is like. Lloyd also talks about shipping products from Ellusionist and what the E team have done to fix this, as well as talking about the Netflix of magic that they have created.We hope you enjoy listening to this podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it, huge thanks to Lloyd ? I don’t think we’ve laughed and joked as much on a podcast before!

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